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- >From: ehare%arrlhq.UUCP@uhasun.hartford.edu (Ed Hare KA1CV)
- >Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
- >Subject: Re: Ham Radio Interference from Neighbor
- >Message-ID: <647@arrlhq.UUCP>
- >Date: 7 May 92 15:40:01 GMT
- >Sender: arrlhq!ehare (Ed Hare KA1CV)
- >Organization: American Radio Relay League
- >Lines: 115
-
- I received a personal email request for advice that I thought I would
- share with the net. After this I promise I will shut up about EMI/RFI
- for a while. :-), Ed.
-
- To: uhasun!nvuxr.cc.bellcore.com!karayan
- Subject: Re: TVI blues
- Message-ID: <648@arrlhq.UUCP>
-
- >I saw your latest posting in netnews on TVI and what the ground
- >contributes to it. Finally! Somebody understands me! People keep
- >telling me that I need to find good ground, etc. However, I live
- >in a 2nd story apartment. The grounding path will go from my livingroom
- >(where the rig is) to the kitchen (cold water pipe) and down, through
- >the 1st floor and basement, to the ground. If this path doesn't
- >radiate like crazy, I don't know what will.
-
- It sure will!
-
- >Soooo, I am running my rig into a balun, flat-ribbon feedline and
- >to a 15m folded dipole. Everything is balanced after the tuner.
- >Otherwise, my ground is floating -- nothing connected to the lug.
- >Do you see any problems with this arrangement?
-
- Not from an EMI standpoint. There are safety considerations that I will
- not get into here.
-
- >Nevertheless, I have TVI problems galore! I haven't been all that
- >successful getting out with the indoor antenna, but my two TVs get
- >me just fine! I assume that the house electrical wiring picks up
- >RF from the antenna and feeds it to the TVs. Am I right? Would
- >power-line chokes correct the problem?
-
- I think I would try the "standard" TVI remedies. Contact your section
- Technical coordiator (located through your Section Manager - page 8
- of QST - or ARRL HQ.)
-
- * Install a low-pass filter between the transmitter and the antenna tuner.
- If the TVI is on channels harmonically related to 15 meters, ie channel
- 3 and channel 6, this will probably be the cure. Even if not, put it on
- anyway. The TVI might stem from both station harmonics and fundamental
- overload. This way you will be confident that it is not your station.
-
- * Purchase some FT140-43 ferrite cores. (#43 is the material of choice for
- 15 meters. If you also operate on 80, get some FT-140-J, FT-140-75, or
- FT-140-77. If you have RG-8 (or equiv size) cable, or a BIG line cord
- or plug, you may need to use an FT-240 size core.)
-
- * Wrap about 10 turns of the transmitter's AC line cord around one of these
- cores, as close as possible to the transmitter. This is a common-mode choke.
- (If you have other AC-powered equipment connected to the transmitter, ie
- keyer, SWR meter, TNC, etc, install one of these on its AC line cord, too.
- The idea here is to prevent any chassis RF (harmonics or fundamental) from
- seeking earth via the power lines.)
-
- * Do the same thing with the coax cable between the tranmitter and the tuner.
- This is also a common-mode choke.
-
- * Now you know that the transmitter is (probably) clean.
-
- * Simplify the TV installation. Multiple TVs, VCRs, etc make it impossible
- to troubleshoot. Get it down to one antenna or cable and a TV. If it is
- cable and a non-cable-ready TV, use the set-top converter or VCR as you
- normally do. After you get the bugs out, you can start adding stuff back
- one at a time.
-
- * If you have a TV preamp, booster or distribution amp, get it the heck out
- of there. These things are notorious for overload.
-
- * Install a high-pass filter on the TV (or before the set-top converter/VCR.)
- If using a set-top converter/VCR, you may need to use one before the converter
- AND before the TC.)
-
- * Install a common-mode choke in the same location(s). If the TV is using a
- CATV or community antenna, I would try the common-mode chokes before the
- high-pass filter, just to play the percentages.
-
- * Install a common-mode choke on the TV and set-top converter/VCR AC-line
- cords.
-
- * If you still have interference, try using a differential-mode AC-line
- filter on the TV, set-top converter or VCR, and the station transmitter.
- Radio Shack catalog 15-1111 is universally available.
-
- * If you still have TVI, either you have one of those "wierd" problems
- that you don't even want to think about, or you have a TV that is just
- so susceptible that it can't be helped. If so, call me here at HQ. I
- will offer some advice. But please, read the RFI Tips handout and the
- Radio Frequency Interference book before you call me. I don't mind
- helping, but would prefer that we not have to cover the basics.
-
- >Needless to say, I have not advertised that I am a ham and I operate
- >in the deep dark of the night. No wonder I'm getting nowhere; that's
- >when 21m is dead. Any advice?
-
- Yeah, move! Actually, the best solution is to clean up your own house.
- That may take care of everyone's problem. If not, at least you can demonstrate
- that it is not your equipment. Do be careful, though. If you mishandle the
- situation you may find yourself having to buy a few hundred ferrites, high-
- pass filters, etc. You are not bound by law to purchase any filters to
- compensate for inadequate filtering in consumer equipment. Some hams
- take the easy way out and pay for the one filter needed to help one
- neighbor. You probably can't afford that luxury.
-
- >I would appreciate any pointers, Ed. Thanks in advance.
- >George, N2OWO
-
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